As you know, Atari Journal had to go out of business
in January... so these questions come purely from a users stand point. I
don't have any more money tied up in the Atari market other than the
machines here on my desk.
<B.REHBOCK> But ST Journal did get picked up and is on the stands again,
no? Anyway... There _is_ a restructuring going on in Europe,
definitely not the gloom & doom that you have outlined.
<MIKE.SCHUETZ> St Journal? Never heard of that magazine in Germany
before. Our mag, Atari Journal ceased to exist with the 01/93 issue.
<B.REHBOCK> (I'm sorry, I meant ST Computer; that one did go and come
back, right?)
It will make operations more streamlined and is designed to increase
developer and user support. As far as the Messe goes, Atari Germany is
working on the details right now; I do hope that dates will be announced
very soon.
<MIKE.SCHUETZ> Ok, Thanks, bill.
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Interesting. Thanks Mike. Up to the microphone or
terminal is Michael. Ask away Michael.
<M.HILL13> Bill, glad to have you here. When the Falcons do start
arriving in the next few weeks (fingers crossed) can you give us an idea
of what kind of quantity the USA will see? Im just wondering when the
supply will be great enough for all of us who aren't on a waiting list.
Secondly does the dealer agreement prevent mail order sales of Falcons?
<B.REHBOCK> The dealer agreement most definitely prevents mail order of
Falcons without prior authorization from Atari. Based on the numbers
that have crossed my desk, the numbers do look pretty satisfying, but I
still encourage you to go spend money at you dealer :-)
<M.HILL13> Thanks Bill, Rising star is our local dealer.
<B.REHBOCK> (The numbers for North America _are_ serious
<B.REHBOCK>
quantities to make a real market here!)
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Thanks Michael. Your turn Dave. Go Dave.
<[David] FAIRWEATHER> Aside from Cubase Audio do you know of any
Sequencer software that will use the DSP to generate midi-driven sampled
sounds? Cubase Audio is out of my price range.
<B.REHBOCK> I think will be seeing several DSP synthesizers in the next
few months. Many of these should integrate into low-cost sequencing
packages. There are other MIDI/Digital audio solutions being worked on,
but I don't believe that the developers have made announcements yet and
I'd hate to pre-announce products for them. James Grunke and I are
absolutely thrilled with the developer response on the music side of
things.
<[David] FAIRWEATHER> That's good news. Will the 1st shipment of
Falcons come with Multitos installed? That's all.
<B.REHBOCK> make it, make sure you send in you warranty cards. Yes, the
first Falcons will have MultiTOS 1.01 and SpeedoGDOS installed. We are
trying hard to have Atari Works inserted here. If it doesn't make it,
make sure you send in you warranty cards.
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Thanks Dave. Your turn Steve.
<[Steve@CNotes] S.KIEPE> Atari's credibility seems to be at an all time
low. I am surprised that you couldn't FEDEX a big box of Falcon's to a
dealership just to rekindle hope. Also, with the limited number of
dealerships, how do you expect to crack the market? There isn't a
dealership within 100 miles of my current home (Newport, RI) or my old
one (San Diego). How will you get these home machines into homes?
<B.REHBOCK> I think that the only thing that will truly rekindle hope
is Atari's long-term commitment to the dealer base and developer base.
We have been getting a steady stream of new dealer requests and things
do look very good. We are realists about the job that is ahead of us and
realize that Fed Ex boxes aren't going to do the trick for the long
haul. Our plans are a little more structured than that.
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Ok, Andrew is up next. Go Andrew.
<[Andrew] A.STUDER1> Why 16bit RAM? Compatibility? Cost? Is video slowed
because of this? Are 16bit HiColor [:) animations feasible?
Will Atari offer a Falcon upgrade policy? How about service, support,
and marketing. If increased, sales could expand.
<B.REHBOCK> 16-bit ram... Cost and time to market; system slowdown...
our video is _really_ fast, the games and animation stuff we've been
showing proves that (as well as FalconSpeed from Compo :-) The ram is
really 32-bits to the video and memory controller, BTW.
It has not been Atari's policy to offer an upgrade path. There really
isn't room in the margin for it. I do see increased service, support,
and marketing in the future. We do realize that those are critical
elements.
<[Andrew] A.STUDER1> Re CeBit, were Falcon sales active? Do you have
numbers of Falcon's sold? The software/hardware lineup is promising.
Video is FAST, thanks.
<B.REHBOCK> 1) CeBIT is not a "sales" show for anyone. (I wouldn't give
you sales figures if it were :-) It is primarily a showcase show. The
magazine interview traffic was excellent, and the dealer inquires were
more than we expected.
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Thanks Andrew. John Brenner is next.
<[John B.] J.BRENNER1> 1 I'd like to know if you saw any video packages
that resemble Adobe's Premiere software or Newtek's toaster.
2, You mentioned 32 mhz accelerator with RAM upgrade for Falcon, we have
heard memory expansion doesn't work on this card.
3 ... <.and do you type with one finger ? ;-0
<B.REHBOCK> DA's Vektor does a jillion things beyond the original
specification, many of which are very Adobe "Premierish". There are
several other video packages in the works, one or two that will cause
NewTek a little bit of grief :-)
Two fingers :-)
<[John B.] J.BRENNER1> Great news thanks!
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Thanks John, up next is another Canadian, Connor from
the Can RT. Go Connor.
<[Connor] CAN-ASST> Hi Bill. Has the Canadian pricing for the Falcon
been set yet? And what about the Canadian dealer agreement?
<B.REHBOCK> The on-the-fly MPEG decompression will definitely open the
door to the desktop video arena.
Connor, I've got to be honest with you... I have no idea. It should have
happened during CeBIT, but I haven't had a chance to check since I got
back. Bob or I can give you a jingle via e-mail in the next day or
two...
Whoops... I've just been told that Canadian dealer pricing _was_
definitely set. Check in the dealer category here on GEnie in the next
few days. (You leave for 13 days... :-)
<[Connor] CAN-ASST> Thanks Bill.
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Great news for us Canadians Bill. In the past we were
us to getting the equipment before the USA. Up next is John K. Go John
<[John] JKUEHN> Bill, John Kuehn of Rockville Maryland here. My question
regards using SCSI II CD-ROM drives on the ST. I realize that CD-ROMs
were never officially released in the states. But, will it ever be
possible to use them on the ST. That is, is ATARI still supporting the
software development efforts required to provide a working version of
Metados. I assume that a complete .XFS driver for MiNT/Multitos has
been done, but, what about the TOS users? I have been working with two
software developers on this since Nov 92. And the current status from
both of them is Quote "Waiting on a resolution from ATARI". I mentioned
this to Bob Brodie here on GeNIE last month and he replied that he would
have to talk to you for the answer. So here I am at the proverbial
Equine Oral Orifice. (Waiting for a FALCON.)
<B.REHBOCK> John, the MiNT XFS drivers _do_ work very well with just
MiNT. That is the most recommended way of doing it.
John, does that answer your question?
<[John] JKUEHN> The .XFS driver that I have only supports Kodak CD_roms
I need one that will read other High Sierra AND ISO 9660 CDs
<B.REHBOCK> John, there is a newer version that we'll get posted in the
next week or so. We'll be doing a 100% q/a inspection on the first few
hundred F030's that come in and it will be keeping us busy :-)
<[Host] BRIAN.H> GO BRUCE
<B.WELSCH> Hi Bill, What are my chances of talking you into attending
the Kansas City Show,June 26th and 27th? I realize you folks have to be
busy out there, but as this is a first time show, and the falcon a new
computer, they sort of go together. Just think you could ride down in
the semi of falcons;-)
<B.REHBOCK> Bruce, I'd personally love to come, but I can't commit right
now. I'd be happy to discuss it off-line.
<B.WELSCH> in e-mail or voice? if voice give me a number and time to
call you please
<B.REHBOCK> Voice... 408-745-2082 in the afternoon after 2:00 CA time.
Bruce, by the way... Our factory rep base is being expanded rapidly and
we can try to have a rep attend at the very least.
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Thanks Bruce, up again is John B. Go John.
<[John B.] J.BRENNER1> Sorry to ask this again but I think it is
important. Is it true that the memory upgrade does _not_ work on the GE
soft card
<B.REHBOCK> John, I'm sorry that that slipped through. When I saw it, it
was working great. There were working out some BLiTTER problems, but
none insurmountable. Who started the rumor that it didn't work anyway?
:-( I don't think GESoft would appreciate it.
<[John B.] J.BRENNER1> I have read the memory board doesn't work, only
the clock speed up
<B.REHBOCK> The GESoft board is not just a clock speed-up, it has a
68030 on it. The CPU and Memory both work. Definitely.
<[John B.] J.BRENNER1> Thanks for the Truth.....seing is believing. :-)
<B.REHBOCK> (There was another board that cranked the F030's CPU up to
32+ MHz.) A little on the scarcy and not Atari recommended side :-)
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Thanks Bill and John. Up next is Bill Jones
<[Bill Jones] B.BILLJONES2> How important is New England to Atari? As
far as I know, not a dealer to be found. There was a dealer here in
Portland ME a few years back, so there are some Atari familiar folk
here. How to tap that well? I guess I'll visit Canada!
<B.REHBOCK> We have hired a very qualified rep firm in New England that
is just getting up to speed. We expect to see action in the next few
months. Ask your dealers to carry Atari and we'll make sure that the rep
beats them up :-)
<[Bill Jones] B.BILLJONES2> Good news! Thanks!
<B.REHBOCK> PLEASE do send us dealer names! We'll forward them to the
rep firms and get this boat moving!!!
<[Steve@CNotes] S.KIEPE> Will we see a real advertising push for Atari
or will it be another small scale job? I ask because the Lynx,
unquestionably the best handheld video game on the market, gets little
name recognition = low sales (comparatively), even though it got great
marks from consumer reports (zillions) and is ridiculously low priced.
The other 2 competing units are everywhere with much name recognition,
but the 2 Lynx's my kids have got get stares of 'what's that." Will
Falcon be left to the same fate? Please be specific on plans. really
<B.REHBOCK> re: Lynx, there is a wide-scale promo that will be showing
up in the next few weeks in all of the game mags. We do want to do the
same or bigger with Falcon. The more dealer area we have in the wings,
the larger the scale it will be. Sorry Steve, the dealers will get the
details first.
<[Steve@CNotes] S.KIEPE> It seems like a vicious circle - require
dealers for Atari to mount a large ad campaign, but there won't be
dealers without a market.
<B.REHBOCK> Ah, but you are wrong... we are signing up dealers right
now.
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Thanks Steve, up next is Jonesy
<[Jonesy] M.JONES52> Welcome, Bill, and thanks. I'm curious about the
DEC/Alpha thing, more specifically, as to whether anyone from DEC
strolled over to the Atari stand to talk.
<B.REHBOCK> Ho, you bet they came over. The fractal thing is a loaded
benchmark anyway you cut it. We just called their bluff.
<[Jonesy] M.JONES52> That's all for now, thanks.
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Up next is Die Hard ATARI!!!!!
<[Die/!\Hard] D.VICHA> Last Friday, somebody mentioned Autodesk Animator
in conjunction with the Falcon at CeBit. Are they signed? And are there
any disgruntled NeXT devs in Germany looking to change gears for the
Falcon?
<B.REHBOCK> We have been signing up a good number of NeXT devs, but they
are taking a while to get their feet wet. The NeXTstep (software-only)
devs will be ok with the '486, but those that liked the hardware are
taking a good look at Atari.
AutoDesk U.S. is not officially doing anything active currently. There
still is some CyberPaint Falcon activity (so I've been told.)
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Thanks Die Hard ATARI Up next is John. Go John.
<[John] JKUEHN> Bill, What is new on the Kodak Photo CD front? And who
are the current players/developers doing PCD?
<B.REHBOCK> PCD Developer material is ready to go.
<[John] JKUEHN> The PCD Toolkit is done?
<B.REHBOCK> The cost of the development kit is $700 (same as the Kodak
kits) and we are taking orders as of today. The kit comes with Pure C,
GCC, bindings and Lattice bindings are being reved and will be ready in
about a week.
<[John] JKUEHN> ST or Falcon or both?
<B.REHBOCK> It will work for all TOS Systems. BTW, I do want to mention
on the animation front that Meridian from Lexicor is looking really good
and should give users a lot of flexibility
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Great Bill. Thanks for the questions John K. The last
question for the night was from Jim Ness but...
but he left to post it in the BBS:
Rumour is that Atari will not ship US Falcons unless more
dealers are signed up! Any truth in this rumour??
<B.REHBOCK> Errrrng! Wrong, Jim Ness! Thank you for playing our game.
:-) Is that clear enough?
<[Host] BRIAN.H> For me it is. Thanks for clearing up the rumour.
Thanks Jim for asking it. We're drawing to a close for the formal
portion of the CeBit RTC. Before I put the room into Frenzy Mode, do you
have any closing words, Bill?
<B.REHBOCK> Once again, I do wish to especially thank the developers
that have been working with us on Falcon030 software. There is a
boatload of great stuff in the wings from _many_ U.S. developers that
will knock everyone's sock off. Yamaha U.S. has been working with us
closely on promoting the Falcon and CBX-D5 direct to disk recording
system with pro-audio A/D's-D/A's, and I can hardly wait for some of the
apps from our old stand-bys! Thanks again!
<[Host] BRIAN.H> Great news Bill. I wish to thank you Bill for attending
tonight RTC. I also wish to thank all the attendees for their questions
and patience. In frenzy mode ...now!
End of Formal RTC
<[James] B.ABELL> James Grunke - Any news on Notator Audio for the
Falcon?
<JAMES-GRUNKE> Re: You'd have to ask them directly for an official
announcement on Logic Audio. EMAGIC has a machine and they are pretty
excited about the hardware.
<G.ZEPKA1> Bill, what is the price for dev docs on falcon
<B.REHBOCK> G.Z. please contact 408-745-2022 for dev kit details.
<B.REHBOCK> We will run as lean and mean as we have to to make Falcon
work world-wide! Jack and Sam really do believe in the product, but they
do realize that the market is rough and that margins are really, really
tough nowadays. That's going to mean even more belt tightening if
necessary, but we _will_ be here.
<[Rob] R.ANISKO> Atari has the "luxury" of some pretty loyal users which
helps out in times like these...
<B.REHBOCK> Jack made a strong commitment to me during CeBIT regarding
Falcon Software development, and he definitely doesn't intend to roll
over.
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